. >> it actually empowered them because during that time, they were selling the ability to syria to make a nuclear device in 2007. that was taken out by the israeli air force that took out that facility. but the north korean scientists were building a nuclear bomb for the syrians at this time. this launch was an advertising ploy here to show that they can deliver a three-stage icbm, which potentially could hit the united states. that's why we need to -- to act now. there are reports in the south korean media that iranian scientists were on hand for this launch. so clearly, since they're transferring this technology, selling technology, you know, to iran, to pakistan, to egypt with a scud technology to now to the muslim brotherhood, now is the time really foritous work in con-- for us to work in concert to try to shut it down. >> eric: a message to potentially incoming secretary of state john kerry to change the bush administration proposal and plan and get the sanctions back on. congressman joyce, thank you for joining us on obviously, a difficult sunday, thanks you. >> thank you. >> jam